There is a link to the Croatian court system that tracks the case. As it currently sits, the case has been assigned to a new judge and the court has not taken any actions.
The link is below. It has an English option.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Lloyd doesn’t want any part of a movement he cannot dominate. He does not envision exJW activism having any kind of success without him.
He wants the money he made in 2021 and before and it’s slowly creeping on him that he has a much lower ceiling now. He isn’t really interested in the activism part anymore. It’s even been stated that he is ambivalent about getting back into it since it could possibly benefit those who criticise him.
People lose interest in their jobs all the time. It’s not unheard of that someone his age could possibly switch careers. This gig he has is just not working anymore. You can’t run an animal charity and hate them at the same time. He’s just not suited for this kind of work. It’s a dead end job because he’ll always be struggling to advance. So he’ll be on this hamster wheel for as long as he keeps up the exJW charade.
Once his case is dismissed, it will negatively impact his reputation and donation base even further. He’s painted himself into a corner and is trapped. I imagine he’ll just follow WT’s playbook and pretend it never happened.
To that end, I think we should get our hands on the final ruling in this case when it comes and have it professionally translated into English for posterity. People need to know how he threatened people and slandered them as “criminal defendants” when in reality it was a frivolous case that got dismissed.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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If you sign up 499 new subscribers your total is still at 500, so the lost customers don't show up in the numbers. But these are all new customers, lacking any history or commitment to you.
You make an apt point. Most of his patrons 2021 and prior have fled him. Probably 3/4ths at least. Most of his current support consists of people who have just joined and are seeing the current output of LE, not the one who was on Leah Remini and the go-to EXJW source in the news media. They are seeing this pathetic middle aged man dye his hair and do standup about wanking. They hear about unspecified “defamation” and how he’s always needing more money to make his videos. Then he gets routinely outperformed by other exJW YTers.Cycling customers like this is a sign of a business in trouble. You want repeat business, if you can't keep customers coming back, your problems will eventually sink your business.
This is why many of us here on this thread and elsewhere have stated that this is unsustainable. The begging stunt only masked a deeper problem with his business model, and that was one of retention. That video was very manipulative and full of false information. He claimed “the defamation has failed” before contradicting himself by saying it has caused a lot of his financial support to dry up.This is the reason why Lloyd is dead set on scaring people into being silent about him by threatening legal actions. I cannot stress this enough: that was a huge and unforced blunder. He has mismanaged this crisis from the beginning by not addressing the problem and attacking all those who offer critiques of him. He’ll never get it right. He’s a narcissist and a bully who is going down fighting. There was never going to be an instance where he sat down, acknowledged the concerns and offered to make real changes. People are lured back in by offering them your hand, not the middle finger. He missed that boat anyway and people are finding out how much of an angry and bitter man he is. People are finding out that this is all about the money for him and he’s not lifting a finger he doesn’t have to if not compensated to the level he thinks he’s entitled to.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Congrats Inna.
I had extensive words of appreciation prepared, but then I thought of all the lives that were not going to be saved because Lloyd wasn’t paid as much as he wanted. We all have blood on our hands.
As JWN era Lloyd would say, “You are doing the GB’s work for them!”
Welp.
So sad.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Since CF never used his name I don’t think it’s fair to use his name here
He dropped Covert Fade and went by Daniel Walker online until he retired. I’m told that wasn’t his real name either.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I'd be more specific - just set a time as a deadline
OK, let’s hammer out the rules. Toblerone5 is French Canadian, so Québec is EST or UTC -5. So let’s set it there so as not to impose unfair reporting times on the organiser.
When the 2nd of the month falls on a weekend we wait until Monday at 12 noon (EST) for the final number. This allows for the ones who did not mean to drop to rejoin as is often common.
For weekdays we wait until the 2nd of the month (if it falls on a weekday) at 9 PM EST.
I suspect this is his medium term plan: to stop making videos altogether but leave old videos up and keep collecting donations from whoever is stupid enough to keep sending him money
This has been his plan and he has stated that he eyes some sort of activist emeritus position. A few years back he made this huge ceremony about handing off JW Survey to Covert Fade/Daniel Walker and Mark O’Donnell in the hopes they would run the site for him whilst he collected the revenue. It didn’t work, CF quit and by the time he jumped back on, the website was dead.
As these past three months have proven, Jabba the Hutt needs to be front and centre in all this and perform pony tricks to kick start the grift. He’s losing patrons at his current level of production. If he goes down further he loses the narrative completely and others can and will overtake him. It can be argued that a few already have. He likely wants someone to take over for him on the “Lloyd Evans Channel” on a salary, where he gets to keep most the money for doing nothing.
He *might* be able to have this grift fund him until death, but he’s putting out content until he drops. There’s no pension with this and that’s why he’s so sore he got exposed because at the rate he was funding, he had enough to start putting aside for that purpose.
I hope that heart disease, colon cancer or HIV doesn’t overtake him for the sole reason of being able to watch a 70 something year old Lloyd Evans making his 57th begging video, complaining that he needs heart surgery and might have to go into hospice care if donations don’t improve.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It is at 504 now, which would mean Inna is the winner. A lot of funny shit happens after the drop, so I suggest waiting until the first working day after the drop to finalise the numbers. On working days, give it to the end of the next working day.
Let’s continue this because Jabba the Hutt wets his panties by reading this before sleepy time. His unsuccessful seductions are still on his mind and reading about the why only irritates him. On the plus side, he is very “successful” with regards to his nightly masturbation sessions. Keep your chins up, Lloyd! And keep a towel handy.
Announce the winners and rank them accordingly:
10 and below: Spotting
11 - 20: Tampon
21 - 30: Tampon + Pad
Over 30: Hebrew law applies and Evans stays in the separate tent for 12 days.
As proof, JW Thoughts video on Tony got 35K views, Lloyd's is stagnant at 11K. JW Thoughts video on that anger management drama, 16K views. Lloyd's, less than 3K.
That begging stunt may have done wonders for his short term finances and puffed him up with pride, but long term it makes him look like one stupid ass bitch.
He’s already lost nearly 100 of his new recruits. This is after pulling out all stops and playing the last card he had. Still didn’t work. By the end of the summer he’ll have lost most of his bump. He can make another begging video but his viewers and supporters are going to wonder why he keeps bleeding support. What’s the defamation about and why does it seem to keep working if none of it is true?
You see he can never go back to the gallant family man persona that he had carefully and fraudulently crafted, who’s putting all his energies and focus into taking down WT. He’s no longer taking selfies with Leah Remini. He sold himself like a cheap prostitute in the seediest New Orleans whorehouse.
He’s not taken seriously anymore. He’s a middle-aged man with bitch tits who’s always whining about money, yet expending little energy and more importantly, content. Watching Lloyd Evans is the equivalent of masturbation. A quick dopamine hit for the few who can stand him, then they just want to roll over and sleep.
Newer generations of JWs are coming out and his show is not the only one in town as it was before. O’Donnell has his own gig now which draws a portion of the would-be donors away. People who had some sort of nostalgia for the old JW Watch/Survey days can get their fix with his reports and won’t have to look at Lloyd’s ugly and bloated face. Younger (and perhaps more importantly, men who do not have to pay for sex) YTers like Wally, Jake and Caleb are reaching the younger crowd and can connect with them in ways a funny looking middle aged low-life like Lloyd cannot. Lloyd talks down to his audience like a professor and one gets the feeling they just watched an instructional video.
What is painfully obvious is that none of these other people are threatening to quit if donations don’t improve. Lloyd stands out in this regard.
His reputation is fucked. He can prime his Patreon like some imported penis pump but it always goes back down to its natural and flaccid state. Mrs Evans probably knows this all too well.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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And Jabba the Hutt is crabby on Twitter today, going on about gaslighting as if he’s not the poster child for it.
It’s an end of month cycle. Call it the Evanstruation cycle, always hits on the first. It’s more than spotting this month, it’s the tampon + pad variety.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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This is a huge drop. 502 now.
Even if he gains a few back, it’s still going to be over 20 losses. The Patreon spike being unsustainable argument has been supported by three straight 20+ drops since the begging stunt happened in April.
He had his chance to really go into overdrive with the renewed support, but he got cocky and squandered all that goodwill. Vintage Lloyd.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentina your win at 508. but he drop 3 more than Simon win 506.
Fuck…. Now Simon stands to win. I really thought I’d be the first Patreoff champion. Oh well. Looks like most of us underestimated the fragility of his support.
Still curious what he'll do now that he's hovering around that magic "500 or I close shop" number again.
He also has the YT channel subscriptions. On his begging videos he’s made it clear he needs 500 combined from both and I believe the last time he announced numbers YT was at over 100 (this would be early April). YT probably has had similar proportional drops and might be under 100 by now.
If so, that would put him well below the 620 mark he claimed he needed met in order to “grow the channel”.
Even at 620 and over, he certainly made no attempt to “grow the channel” and if anything his productivity dove since he got his Patreon bubble. He also claimed he had great “plans” this year for the channel if he could reach 620, but unless you consider him making the same videos as before “great plans” then you were misled and ripped off.
Now if called on that promise he can turn to his followers and say he’s fallen below 620 and can’t grow the channel. See how that works?